Bob Johnston Wants to Change Sudbury — Taxes, Homelessness, Roads & City Hall

good. Hey everybody. My name is Bob Johnson I'm a mayoral candidate for the 2026 municipal election just a little bit about me(...) I'm 61 years old born and raised in Sudbury

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My background I was in the restaurant business for a while Then I ended up working at Cecil Fazer youth center worked in group homes for eight years worked at the blue door soup kitchen Was on an undercover boss Canada in 2013.(...) I went back to school though when I started the group homes due to(...) the people needed more

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More understanding in addictions mental health and trauma and I took those courses I graduated and I moved on and then at one point I found that the police the bylaw The security was a little bit on the bully side. Not all not all at all, but a percentage so I went back to school and I graduated from law enforcement with honors and That way there I could understand and move forward

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very involved in the community and I love the people and by the way, there's no way in heck. I got any blood in me. What is politician? What is a politician? I'm just a man who's got a big heart loves the city loves the people and I want this corruption to end and we can move forward Yeah,

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Hello everyone, it's Eric here from love the north and the municipal elections coming up very soon and We have Bob Johnson in the studio today. He's a mayoral candidate in Sudbury and Let's see what he's got to say. So Bob good to see ya

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Great I You know,(...) I saw you once before you've been in here in the studio and I want to tell a little story I was driving down Paris Street and I see an SUV has got some stickers on it Well, let's see what these stickers are about and then I see it's got Bob Johnson from air So I get a little closer and then I had the opportunity to get beside you and I peeked over So this is the second time I get to see ya(...) Anyways, you're running for mayor

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What's giving you the drive and motivation to do so?

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My drive is the way(...) The people in the greater city of Sudbury are getting treated. Okay, everything's about their tax dollar Everybody everything's about shutting down this shutting down that

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We're gonna pave the roads but we're gonna pave it(...) half-ass where The job will have to be redone in another year or two Okay, my solution to this is I got a gentleman who will come into Sudbury

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Maybe even open his own company for Northern Ontario and he's willing to do our roads at 66% cheaper(...) With a five-year warranty. Now, how do you beat that? Well, what's the warranty we have now on our roads?

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What do you mean by that?

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Okay, but yeah, but you're saying five-year warranty

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You know, we have from what I see we have the local contractors that are paving the roads there's one right in the south end in front of Walmart and Esther Road that area they've ripped it up and actually from from about Walmart all the way over to The street lights there Correct

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St. Charles(...) Lake Road. Yeah, that's it. That's the one

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five-year warranty on the pavement what's the difference between that pavement or yeah asphalt and the asphalt that(...) of the other Organization that may warranty it for five years Be(...) proud Was to build the friendship with the people and he wants to keep everybody happy this gentleman

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What happened was he was doing the Kingsway pilot project where the city decided to cancel it(...) but

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The ones who cancelled it were five of them and they're no longer employed at the city

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Was that so specifically do you know which one that was it was that that machine? The pothole repair machine or was it something else? That's what was the recycling recycling machine. Yes

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Okay,(...) yes, so that was the machine that was here that would chew it up Yeah, heat it up and spit it out the back end as new pavement

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Wasn't there something on berry down in around 2008 that did that? I remember there wasn't their machine going down the road, it was pretty slow(...) and repaved berry down

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Is round to the okay, maybe it's 2008 to 2009 maybe 2000 at 2010 different I believe that was a different machine

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Don't remember(...) okay

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But this gentleman he adds a new like a contact solution. Yeah Yeah

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And I just 66% cheaper would that machine that machine is not gonna be fast is it One kilometer a day yeah, would they go 24 hours a day to get the job done?

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Because otherwise the Construction season in Northern Ontario is relatively short. Yes, you have to give her while it's here But like what they're doing in the Zilda right now. Oh, there's new pavement in the Zilda, isn't there?

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Yeah, I just went out there this morning. Yeah, it's pretty wavy if you ask me, okay, okay wavy how like

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Okay I(...) was out there this morning. I just noticed it was new asphalt. Yeah, and that's as far as I was thinking and that's what Catches the people's eyes. It's election time. Look at the new block. Wait till we get the new white lines on. Oh my god It's beautiful Really? Uh-huh. What about when they go back and do it in two years? Or what about when it when it breaks down because it's not properly surfaced and it starts spreading and cracking and then we got to repay And repay and repay I'm not saying repay repay. I'm saying repay repay repay(...) You know what the city has to understand enough of the

we got all stand together

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We put the people first who's we We as when I say we I mean we I mean the people okay

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I'm running for mayor. I am NOT(...) in I'm not a politician in any means like I said earlier. Okay. Yeah, but I do care for the people I have enough Acknowledgment and enough people supporting me in the right fields

and If they never believed in me and if they never believed in the truth, they would not be supporting me But they know that I will go in I will clean house and I will end all this stuff I will save the taxpayers so much money(...) It's gonna be unreal

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Okay, that's good. Let's start you said you were working in(...) the soup kitchen soup kitchen you've been in You've worked at Cecil which is a young offenders type jail, right?

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Let's start with the homelessness and the drug addiction open drug use that's happening in The north specifically in in in the town in Sudbury where you live(...) What is your? What's your stance on that? Where do you stand?

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Well, my stance on this is basically Like I said in 2022 you want to solve the problem?

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Let's buy a school so right now the city's getting in bringing in funding the year funding there Twelve point two million dollars a year. Okay. Yeah, I can buy an old school for two point two million dollars Okay, then we have our cafeteria there. Yeah, we're Jim there Yeah, you take half the classrooms for sleeping quarters. Yeah the other half for teaching We're gonna teach these people life skills. We're gonna teach these people self-value We're gonna want these people get that poison their PTSD Why they're there what happened to them whether it's a family breakdown or the parents and alcoholic? Let's get to the core of the problem. No more band-aid solutions. Okay. Yeah(...) I've never heard that before but it it kind of makes sense. You've got to get(...) you've got to actually(...) help them and(...) Get them to see the reason why exactly and when you bring out their self-value They're not like this anymore. They're not they're not that's right. So there's a difference. Yeah Now another thing what our city does which I think is sickening(...) We put all these people in the energy cord outside. Yeah, why?(...) Why there's no reason for it. We have so much of faking buildings in this city. It is unreal. So why don't we?

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Stop we have 130 organizations in the Sudbury. What kind of organizations take nonprofits?(...) Yeah, a little bit everything. Okay

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right across the board(...) Why? Don't we break that up in 2020?

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There was a pie it was called the homeless pie and that play got cut into four when Colby moved in. Okay, okay

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So we got the homeless then over here We got the addictions down below we have mental health and down below we have the criminals Okay, and they're all mixed in together now. So what we got to do is break that pie apart. Okay, for example the organizations We'll look after homeless after almost the addictions are the addictions and mental health mental health aren't they all? Intermingled right now they are and we got to take that apart. Yeah, but if you have a homeless person that's an addict, right? Don't they kind of work together?(...) No, we could take them take them apart and separate them. What is the biggest problem they have? Okay, almost this Okay

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So what I want to do is build one organization at Sudbury and I want to go out and I want to reach out to The mall everyone I'm not gonna put anyone down and I'm gonna say I want your best three employees out of each organization So there where am I I got 300 good people who aren't just for there for the money But they're for the heart and we're gonna have a solution(...) That's moving forward

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The way it is now in the winter time. We have these people out of mine at 35 Frostbite I've see I've had people in my van black toes black fingers you need it all frostbite

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One of the reasons why is

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The addiction goes with the homelessness when you're outside Because when you're on fentanyl or if you're on cocaine You're taking it to stay warm your mind stays warm your body stays warm. So why are we doing it?(...) Why are we doing it? Why are we making these people freeze to death and take these drugs?(...) To feel warm. That's sickening. So they might feel warm, but they're not warm

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Their fingers might feel like they're warm when they're turning black flying high as a kite Yeah, but their fingers are actually freezing and dying

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There's no programming there(...) It's survival and I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're the Prime Minister

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When it comes down to survival, you do whatever you can. Yeah, the frigate survive

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There's a lot of good people in energy court, for example, I was there last month guy called me from Toronto Bob you don't know me. I know I know you know everybody in Sudbury do me a favor I need five guys to set up the midway. Sure. Okay, went down to your court picked up five big guys

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They all worked there. How did you know they were good guys?

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Okay

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So why are they there do you know any of their stories? Okay

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Friend request me. Yeah, go to my page. Yeah, and you can see all my videos. I got women crying and I got Men with what's the name of your page? It's just my name Bob. Justin and this is on what platform? Okay, okay, and I got videos like I'm telling you and they're all true. It's coming right from the horse as well so About just over a year and a half ago. I said, you know what? No one's getting to the core of this problem So I'm gonna start a little part of my I have an organization called tomorrow's hope Okay, and I said, I mean it started something where I want to get right to the core So I started the story of your shoes

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Because everybody's shoes will tell a story. Yeah, I don't care whether you're a good or bad Apple. Okay, and Yeah, it went really well. It went really well Now I like(...) I'm trying to run so I can support and help everybody in the community

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When somebody sees me at energy court, they say, you know, you Bob Can I get in we talk for a couple minutes? Yeah, and if I look at them and I figure, you know Hey what you know, they need a shoulder on there on there and it don't have to be energy court

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I was at Tim Hortons the other day and a girl came up to me and said, you know(...) My boyfriend just hit me Blah-blah-blah. Do you have any money?

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No Why what do you need? Yeah, I need I'm hungry. Okay, I'll buy you a sandwich. Yeah, I'm not giving you money Yeah, you know when going back about seven months ago I went into SOS was open where they give out clothes in that energy card So I stopped in there and the guy came up to me and he looked at me and he was you know I'm really suffering right now. Can you give me five bucks? And I looked at him and I said

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Are you gonna spend it properly?(...) And he goes yes(...) So he gave me the $5

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I'm not a rich man myself. I'm just the average guy, right?(...) I Ran into a month later. He goes Bob. Thank you. I said for what you already thank me for that five bucks He was no that five dollars made me think that five dollars Got me an apartment that water view apartments. Well five dollars got me a job

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So

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That's a one success story, but I'm under the impression you still should not give directly to the person asking You should give it to you should donate to an organization because they have people to help(...) so

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What do you say Like you asked them are you gonna spend it properly? Yeah

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I Did you did you know there's nothing wrong with it. Did you know that person from before? You've seen him

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So that's like that's like one in however many of a good news success story because he actually got an apartment he got away from(...) The street I guess but that's my point exactly They had been that's why we need this school. Yeah, so they can get out with their poison I call it poison because that's what it is Okay(...) We don't know What their PTSD level is we don't know why We don't know how they're thinking. We don't know nothing now(...) On the other hand, where do they go for help right now?(...) Well, where can they go for help? Thank you. You answered my question There is no where

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Unless you want to wait six months to a year. So either we're putting up a white cross for them. Yeah(...) Basically, yeah, or they've lost their their arms or whatever

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By then it's too late. Well, it's never too late. However by then

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You know, there's other issues that are coming into into play my friend everybody says oh they don't want help Don't sit on your couch and say they don't want help. Okay until you actually talk to these people

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You know what? I'll tell you one thing. Who did I hire to help me with my science? I'm a double-leg amputee. I can't do all my size myself. Okay, who would I hear? Did you hire anyone? I went back to energy court and I found two other guys. Okay, two good men Yeah, they came out they put up signs. Okay, gave them a few dollars at the end. Yeah, so because they worked for it That's right. Where did they go? I don't you sir. Oh interesting

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Interesting. So that's what I'm saying

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About the pie you cannot label that whole pie anymore You can just you can't just look and say all they're homeless. You can't just say they're addicts Let's find out the reason let's move forward. Let's open this school and I guarantee you One year of operating that school

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We will be well on our way to solving this problem that brings us into the safer community safer streets How well, okay, so if you get the if you get homeless individuals off the street and into the program

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How then our streets will become safer maybe less crime

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Okay, but now you just answered the magic word crying, okay, you know what's going on right now with the crime(...) You're doing that for survival number one. Yeah number two

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The police will pick them up. Yeah, the police will take them to jail or sorry Then they go to court and then they're released most likely the same day. Okay, okay

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Why because our justice system has

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Failed is it overload least get frustrated because they're bringing in all these people for nothing It's a one vicious circle. Now. Can you blame the police on that? No, it's because of the justice system

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But survival is survival. Okay, how many police do we have off on PTSD?

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What's okay? How are we gonna clean up the system the city? I want to put one police car in every ward. Okay. Yeah, so it's not just all downtown So there's gonna be 12 cop cars automatically. Okay every day 24 7

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Exactly. Okay, so we take a look back right now. Yeah, a young nurse in us though. Oh, yeah Yeah, what's he doing to he's setting fires? Yes to property or in the forest or anywhere property. Oh, yeah Yeah, so that's just one that one example, but

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What I want to do with our policing like I said, it's put the 12(...) One car in every ward. I want to bring back out citizen Citizens on patrol. Yeah, okay

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one in every ward(...) Okay, so that means you have two cars cruising the area.(...) Okay

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Then what I want to do with the police

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Is every every back years ago

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The people complained that there wasn't enough police. Mm-hmm. So what did the police do? They turned around and put one police officer in a vehicle compared to two and put all these cars out on the street How long are we talking? Oh, I'd say probably 12 13 years ago. Okay time goes by so quick. It goes it goes So now the PTSD in the in the policing too is high. Yeah, how are we gonna solve that?(...) simple

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What we're gonna do is we're gonna put either an addiction counselor. Yeah or a mental health worker in with these officers. Okay

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Pays so much cheaper number one what pay?

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Oh Yeah, okay Okay You know what you do is that officer has somebody to speak to yeah through his whole shift Okay, so he's venting at the same time. Yeah all the shifts He's not carrying poison around either where he's gonna get upset or whatever or whatever, right all equal(...) and They're witnessing each other if it's a serious call without addiction A counselor or a mental health worker stays in the car. Remember Jeremy used to go on the cop rides Jeremy overhood. Yeah, he used to go on(...) Whatever it rise whatever it was, but I remember hearing about it. And so this could be good I did a place right myself. You did? Yeah for three days. Okay, and I Think you can't you know and not only there too. It takes a lot of pressure off the police because number one Police are not addiction counselors place are not mental health and trauma workers Okay, and let's don't pretend that they're so why are they even put in that position, right?

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You want to solve the problem you got to have the resources and that's how you do it

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Very interesting that's a good. Yeah, it's it's good from a different point of view exactly Exactly. It's thinking outside the box because you know what? I hate the box because they don't give you any solutions(...) Well, it does but it's banding solutions and there's no core situation answers You know, yeah, it's good to get to the root problem instead of just putting it up instead of putting lipstick on a pig Bob, you know if you get in his mirror

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Are you gonna be seen like you are now you're damn right? I am

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You go to the office in the morning and I'll be out on the streets in the afternoon And I if I get in as mayor one of my points towards all counselors will be(...) Just don't listen to the management. It's your work those people voted you in what?(...) Listen don't listen to what management the city management. Okay, they all bow now. Oh, yes. Great. Great. Good report. Good report Okay, how about the counselor goes out and says?

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Okay, this looks pretty good this is interesting this is what they're doing They're doing it right then you go back and then you put the report together on one hand and you got your vision on the other Put it together and there's some Fox right

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Well, the facts don't lie one plus one is still two Yeah,(...) I got that right

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Well, I saw or heard somewhere that two plus two is five it all depends on how you spin it

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It's still four if you have two apples and two apples you still have four apples So

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That sounds interesting

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How would it be paid for? Because you said the city already gets about twelve million dollars towards twelve point two towards that. Yeah So that would I'm all for education. Yeah education. I If you can educate from any age, that's how you can start to shift the direction of Well society, I'm not a fool and like I said, we have 12 crisis in Siberia 12. What are these crises? roads homelessness addictions mental health

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The criminals the justice system the police service HSN health system. Okay Okay now

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Talking about it is gonna get you nowhere

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Correct such as a rap problem the other night Talk talk talk. Did you go so there was a get together at the Legion up on Weller Street Where the tank is correct(...) and did you go to that? I did

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Why'd you go?

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Do Whether I was running for me or not So(...) there's a rap problem from what I understand it's in Minnow Lake is it anywhere else

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Where is it not Okay,(...) what part where do what part did it seem to start

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Says Minnow Lake. Yeah, but no lakes a big area Second second.(...) So by Cambrian Ford

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Cambrian Ford is okay. Okay, so then it grew from in a lake it went in through town

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Then it's an energy court. It's at energy court now. It went down the rats all went down the Kings way

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And did they did they buy a car?

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Bob(...) are you sure they're at energy energy court? They've made it there(...) I'm asking you because I don't know I need an answer. I don't need an answer. I'm just putting it out there Put it this way anybody who knows me knows that I don't have any BS in me. Okay, I'd rather stick a slap in the head And tell the truth then try and BS anybody. So so they're at an energy core(...) In fact, if anybody would like to look or come for a ride with me, they're welcome to it So if they're a droppings on the top of the tents(...) Rat droppings(...) are they like mouse droppings where they're you know, they're nice fall. No What are they brown white what color seagulls are white droppings? Brontish so they're on top of the tents. Yeah

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How can we haven't had this problem I don't remember a rat problem I have a bad memory to start with that Okay, so we're on the same page, okay So now from energy court, they're going up to the Riverside Drive.(...) Oh, they're making their way. Oh, they are They are in fact,(...) I won't say(...) Where I ate yesterday. Okay, it was in the south end. Yeah, and before you go in the restaurant. Yeah,(...) I looked and I said(...) I Was with somebody and I said hey

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Is that I knew it was a big mouse trap yeah big mouse trap

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Remember mighty mouse So

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They're at Second Avenue and they've been going Towards the south end energy court. Are they moving to the other they're moving south So they're not going into new Sudbury like where the mall is Madison

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Are they following the geese the geese are getting ready to go south ducks

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Let's be let's be honest while life is so screwed up You know pick up a burger there. No, they're damn and don't be surprised if you don't see a moose Right. Okay. So yeah, it's nature screwed So the rats are moving in a southward direction so it seems Okay,(...) so what now I was gonna say that at the meeting. Oh, yeah circling back to your meeting Yeah, but I was cut off by our CEO and Councilor Duke

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Because I started off by stating

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first of all

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And there was no politics in there. Okay, I said first of all

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The this meeting should have been called seven eight weeks ago

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Was the issue still alive seven and eight weeks ago? Okay, I said(...) Second of all are we gonna treat this problem like we did with the snow? Yeah, so that that brings us down to the edge emergency preparedness Then(...) I mentioned is it gonna bring us like the flooding again emergency preparedness Then I stated that the garbage is downtown should be picked up on Sundays not overflowing Sunday afternoon

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Yeah, yeah

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Okay,(...) I know so right now garbage is every two weeks Where I live and I think it's the same in all the city of Sudbury Yeah, I live in I live in the city of Sudbury and it's every two weeks but I what I notice with my own household is Whenever if we have an event like a birthday party or whatever. I've got a lot more garbage

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I've got a lot more garbage and Then you've got to store that for the two weeks(...) Or until your next garbage collection is happening. So(...) On the weekends. Yeah, there's no garbage pickup. So the restaurants they throw stuff out back. Yep(...) So how how would that actually work?

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It's very simple

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Like if you're gonna skip a day on garbage skip the Mondays or sorry the Tuesdays skip the Tuesdays Okay, after you cleaned up off after everything all weekend long. Yeah, well, everything's gone So you can you can go one one day. Yeah. Okay. Yeah without the garbage pickup. That's interesting but for for example how I would handle this number one right off the bat is(...) Garage pickup once a week until the problem solved now, we don't have to be on the whole city It can be in the designated areas in the problem areas. Correct. Okay, it's and the problem. Okay. Okay Yeah, number two. Why can't we deal with a PCO company or something? What's PCO company the pest control? Okay, got it. Okay. Yeah, so at that meeting the people the taxpayers were told if you beg rats Put them in a bag and take them on the dump and pay your $5. I don't think any female and I'm not

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Squaring out or just I don't think any in my mind. I don't want to pick up a rat I(...) do it, but it's not top of mind You know, I when I was a kid I used to play with snakes and frogs and grab them and do all this stuff I

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Don't really play with snakes and frogs anymore. However a rat I've never really seen a rat and it wouldn't be high on my priority list(...) However for any of the females out there, I don't think they want anything to do with rats and mice There are some that love them, but the majority(...) they still

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It's not it's not it's not a positive experience Because it's an issue it's a problem That leads that leads us into the affordability because things are tight as they are transportation for anyone that has wheels is tightening up I cringe when(...) I Have to go and buy diesel because it's it's a lot higher

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But it's still it's still a reality. So the affordability will get there, but it makes sense in the problem areas

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to Get the garbage Get it out of there. Like you said(...) So what else happened for you for the meeting that you were at? So we got to keep the grass cut short We got to get our ditches clean. Okay, what's what's wrong with the ditches?(...) Garbage is the swale. Yeah, and it holds water which has been what attracts the rats. Okay, we know the only

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Drink about half to one teaspoon a day. So currently who's(...) Everyone can cut the grass unless you have a real issue But everyone can cut their own grass and keep it reasonably maintained the ditches whose responsibility is that say that's the city Are they out there keeping ditches clean? What are they doing

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Well,(...) shouldn't it be regular maintenance for as part of taxes

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Off course but you know that and I know that know why the city know that okay so is it budgeted for to clean the swales because now we have we have a(...) We have a new challenge among us, right? But you got to wonder my friend when you get rid of the auditor general(...) What is happening?(...) well

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Five months ago. They found 22 million dollars. I don't know whose pillow that was hiding under(...) and then apparently yesterday They found 83.7 million I believe number might be off a little bit, but that's that's that's about a hundred million. Yeah That's about almost that's like 13 14 percent of the overall budget. That's one heck of a big pillow(...) Yeah, it's a hundred million bucks. Yeah

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Yeah, that's half the slated budget of the arena because the arena slated at has a budget of 200 million. Yeah, so

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Number one that money came from deferral another projects what we're supposed to work go through what do you have any idea? What what kind of projects have been deferred? There's been some road projects. I know that for sure. Okay,(...) but if you want to do an update I'll be glad to send you any information you want

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But yeah, no, it's like I said when the auditor general went it's free spending for all okay and

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Sorry saying when that when that department got closed, yes, it's a free-for-all as for spending. Yes They have their plan and that's the only reason why they got rid of it. Who is They(...) For me. Who is they?

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Okay, okay Like I said, you know when I was starting to bring enough about the snow and the The(...) flighting and stuff the CEO right away, you know cut me off why because the truth is hard to handle

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So if we go back and we and if we go back to when the great snowfall came What(...) happened from your point of view

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Okay

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Did they know a storm was coming(...) and they I mean the city Yes, so why why yeah if it's coming if it's coming Why?(...) Would you not have them constantly going because that makes sense and that cost money?

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For example, okay, a lot of people snowed in a lot of people couldn't get anywhere And if you're a rural in the outskirts

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Well, you're camping out for a little while Exactly exactly so that the name of the storm I call 311(...) I Said hi, it's Bob Johnson from tomorrow's out

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We're way behind in not enough rooming for the homeless in energy court, can we get us a bus? Okay Yeah, but you're not gonna They told me(...) That takes two to six weeks For what they got a bus organized what kind of bus and what was the bus gonna do the sudden transit bus was gonna pull it And then then why(...) okay instead of being outside they had shelter Was there any cry(...) if this would have happened would there be any criteria for them before they get on the bus?

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They could have had they never needed a bus driver should you know, just let it run and

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Isn't there a warming station down there it was fall, okay Okay

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One person died that night. Okay, and it that during the snow during the great snowstorm as we'll call it Yeah that night first thing. Okay, okay.(...) I Remember

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We had an incident probably I'd say about six seven years ago, yeah

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And I needed a bus you needed a bus yeah It was for something to do with the homeless across from the Samaritan Center. I can't remember the exact Fox Where is the Samaritan Center? Is that downtown soup kitchen and mission? Yeah How can Street Mission soup kitchen on the corner? Okay call Michael vein 80. Yeah, I said Michael I said I'm in a real bind. I need some heat.(...) I Need a bus ASAP(...) a half an hour later

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Two subway transit buses pull in(...) half an hour later after that

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50 pizzas come in you only asked for one bus. He said a bus. That's right. And I never asked for any pizza, but 50 came in okay. Yeah, so that's just Somebody who cares who's gone and stepping up now there again. I couldn't get a bus but(...) a couple months later the city center(...) Downtown. Yeah the mall. Yeah had a gas leak. Okay, they had a bus there in 20 minutes The people from the stores from the stores

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Like them the merchants(...) Okay,(...) okay and that goes back to your question(...) does two plus two really equal for

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Not necessarily

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Moving along(...) to Oh,(...) we're talking about all the money they just found let's talk about the arena

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Hang on let's not go down there yet

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Have you been door knocking

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Yes So,(...) for example, what are they saying what are the people that you're meeting with and seeing because since you're running for mayor Right, what are the people that you run into? What are they what's coming out of their mouths? We need change

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We need our taxpayers out of control or under control. Sorry. Yeah They(...) don't believe that The city never gave them any voice on this new arena the city never gave them any voice on Basically any big projects what are going on? So what what big projects?(...) Like I know about the arena. Yeah, are there other big projects that have been going on or that have gone on over the last little while So they want to build a library in Tom Davies square, that's correct do they have room for it(...) Well, they're renovating all inside right now. Oh, yeah What(...) kind of price tag is on that?(...) I believe it's Don't call me the exact number, but I believe it is in between 70 and 80 million. Okay(...) What other projects are on the go?

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that

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The regular folk may not know about well, like for example(...) The KD on the Kingsway the enter the I see there's a beautiful road in there. Yeah, guess what? But isn't that a private enterprise sure

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So why should the taxpayer pay for private enterprise? Thank you(...) Well, no, I'm asking you Because

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How did all the council in there pass that?(...) Now that's just one(...) 8.67 million dollars. Okay for that access that road, correct now why?(...) Did they turn around and okay another five point three seven million?(...) Towards where this wanted be casino wants to go

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The casino gateway already has an inked deal to move to the new location the kid

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I Don't really believe that okay. Well,(...) I'm gathering this up from(...) one of the parents on

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Last year's my kids

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team that he played on(...) and He works at the casino and said that's been inked for a while. So, you know what that could be hearsay Yeah, they could be that could be hearsay. Now. Do you want to hear my opinion on that? Because you know should never happen. Why not leave the casino where it is Okay, if you can afford to get there you can afford to gamble

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Second of all second of all we have so many addictions downtown Do we need really need another gambling addiction where our OW checks and our OD SP checks of the people go in there? They did it OW is Ontario works known as welfare from the olden days and OD SP means you get it You get a check because you're on disability for whatever reason. Correct. So that's to OW and OD SP. Correct. Is there?

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Other people that get some sort of government assistance. Anyways, no, the only other one I worry about would be the seniors with Canada pension

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Okay, so you're saying if you can afford to get to the casino now You can afford and go and spend then you can afford to get back moving it into town What would what would the ramifications be what's the impact? What's the impact? Well, I just got my OD SP check of the thousand dollars Yeah, I'm not gonna pay my rent. I'm gonna go and double that at the casino. No, you're not. No, you're not exactly No, you're not in their shoes and who shoes the shoes of the people who are getting that check They think because we're back to survival. You'll do anything you can to survive So I used to work in the old patch in Alberta before I went back to school. Correct. Edmonton

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I was there for a year went there like January 2nd a friend of mine and myself and Anyways Fridays, I think Fridays was payday. So we would go out(...) once I wouldn't go all the time but I'd go out and have a beer with all my Co-workers not all the co-workers, but whoever you went with right? We were we were building(...) Offshore and onshore drilling rigs Okay, one of them went to the North Sea in Norway and the other ones I remember going to the Yukon up the Athabasca(...) River But one of the things they had there and we didn't have that here is they had slot machines and I would watch Some people not too closely, but I often wonder why okay You go to work for so long and you're spending your money in that machine. You're not gonna win

(...)

It's only programmed to pay out a certain percentage Whether that percentage hovers somewhere between 10 and 20 percent I think the numbers pegged at 17, but I'm no expert on that because you have anyways the house always wins Why would anyone on? OW or ODSP go and spend their money on that. You're not gonna double your money(...) We know that They don't well, they're in survival and they have the opportunity(...) To take that chance and they will(...) That's a big chance That's like losing your house in a poker game So for example a hundred hundred people on either disability or home homeless goes in with their checks(...) Out of a hundred one will win(...) and that gives everyone else hope

(...)

Oh, I just won(...) $300(...) I only put it in 50(...) Yeah,(...) look at the commercials down on TV(...) And they're flooded everywhere the gambling commercials

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Shouldn't be same in it saying names, but that's that's the one that just but there's gonna be a new law(...) Put in place for that and that's due to all the suicidal rates

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Across

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Okay

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Yeah

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So like I said, so then what do we have downtown you want to clean up downtown But you're gonna have your addictions you want to have your mental health. You want to have your homelessness you want to have gambling(...) Think about it. You just really put the last night in the coffin, right?

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So you're opposed to the casino moving

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Okay now

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One thing what's interesting about that downtown is I figured I can clean up downtown in about six six months Yeah, okay Well Trump figured and we shouldn't even go there but Trump figured he could do stuff wherever he's doing stuff within about a very Short amount of time. Yeah(...) What makes you think you can do that experience? What experience you're talking about the streets?(...) The streets yeah people for 15 years I'll give you that I've from what I've from what you've told me Yeah, and what we've said here is you have you know, you've been in the soup kitchen You've been in see so so you've been in some pretty

(...)

Social Settings, okay(...) So you under so would you say that you have a basic understanding of what's going on down there? That's correct. You know, you know what these people need like I said, I'm going to go back to those two words communication and education because they respect me and I respect them and I'm gonna tell you(...) I Brought in a couple people last winter and they were just totally amazed because when I pull in they just come right into my van I got rid of my van and buried it but yeah, and then again now I Guess it was about three weeks ago now. I had a millionaire sitting in my vehicle Mm-hmm wanted to know the true colors the true colors of what downtown so I took him out So he came to see you he got in my vehicle. We went through energy court. We went downtown. We went down Medina Lane Okay, and then we talked and we seen it all. Yeah

(...)

And he was asking the people

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Because I wanted to stay biased out of it and he was asking the people(...) Excuse me, and I'd say hey, this is my buddy. Blah blah blah. He would ask a question for you He was asking how much help do you have?(...) how many organizations help you and so on and so on(...) and The answers were the blue door soup kitchen the mission and SOS what's SOS that's the closing drive Clothing drive. Yeah, it's all the white containers. Yeah Yeah

(...)

Toothbrushes toothpaste Every Sunday they're open for the homeless people. Yeah, okay, cuz some I see some of the homeless people

(...)

Or that you know that are at the corners and some of them look like they have new clothes Some of them may not(...) okay, so they go shopping there Yeah

(...)

So(...) they have jobs Yeah, the last last year the guy he had a black Cadillac would drop them off wherever and then they pick him up at shift

else back in five days this year. He's got a van. Okay, I don't know what the cut is

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I heard it was 50-50, but it is totally a business Why would someone on this on the corner asking for money? Give a cut to bought the boss. What does the boss have over them?

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I

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Cuz you know me myself and I I don't hand out money to them But I always like to(...) if I have the opportunity to take that lane We call it the pole position even though it's the pole positions on the right hand side. I'll go there I'll roll down the window and I'll If I get the opportunity I'll ask him a couple questions and one of them is are you from Sudbury?(...) And not every one of them is from Sudbury. No, no, there's a good percentage(...) We're at about 30 40 percent right now.(...) Okay, and how I can say that Yeah, it's because we had 62 come off of two buses last week

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Where'd the bus come from? No, so throw once from drop the Toronto once for that now. I also have pictures on my phone

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View all bands pulling in energy card opening the back door and everyone getting out Yeah, there was one I got one picture of five people getting out of the back doors with their dance And it's got right on the side of it you hall Brampton, Ontario. So you think that's from Sudbury? I don't believe so Well, you hall usually has an Arizona license plate So they(...) don't have to get inspected or some there's kind of there's something special about that just like in Alberta you put your(...) Once you buy a vehicle you get a plate and away you go in the East Coast from what I understand like New Brunswick Or maybe even Nova Scotia you got to get your vehicle inspected every two years to make sure it's road worthy So the rules are different across the country

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Anyways, say la vie it is what it is. So but

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You know, why isn't the media picking up on this?(...) Well, I don't hear about it. I don't necessarily listen to(...) So I'll listen to the radio in the mornings. Yep, and then I'll listen to it

(...)

Sometimes at 6 o'clock to see what's happening out in the bigger picture But as for what's happening in our own backyard, that's that's what affects us Well directly. Yep directly. So if we if we move along and we should move along

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The we covered a little bit about roads and infrastructure or did we yes we did we did

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Yeah, okay

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safer communities well safer communities Stems from the homeless and drug issue. You know, a lot of people don't want to go a lot of people don't want to go downtown(...) They'll go downtown if there's an event happening Yeah, because there's tons of people and that's where if you're going for hockey basketball or any kind of event like that I noticed that(...) Rib fest has moved to Belle Park away from downtown and there's a lot of great businesses. They're still downtown Hanging on and I remember downtown when I was a munchkin. I remember going to Woolworth's

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Yeah sitting at that I think it was a stainless Bench with those round seats you can spin on them. I remember getting a slap in my head stop spinning

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The pets they(...) Okay, that was on the corner. Yeah, it was on the corner. I remember that(...) but

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We have a lot of a lot of vacant buildings downtown well the affordable housing, what does that mean to you? affordable housing. Yeah, if it's an honest affordable housing, that means that

(...)

The rent is geared to your ODSP amount or your OW amount who covers up the rest is Would that be a city-owned facility like across from the Rainbow Center Rainbow Mall? There's all those white buildings on Notre Dame

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But you can't just say oh we're gonna charge $500 a month rent and the city will pay the rest I'd go there. That'd be great

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Who's making the person the person's bringing in two grand Yeah, you should be able to pay 50% of that money well if they're making $300 a month. Yeah, what are you gonna do?

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You know what I mean? We cannot keep setting up people for failure Mm-hmm, but for example, there's so many private

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Buildings in Sudbury where it's geared to income so you know what your rent is a thousand dollars a month But the landlord wants 1800 so the city subsidizes the other 800

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No enough is enough. It's like it's like the the housing

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15% of all the apartment buildings of Sudbury aren't

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No Pardon me. Are you sure? I'll bet you a steak dinner

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I'm not I don't go to the casino. No, I'm talking the cake But(...) what happens is is the landlord will make the same amount of money at the end of the day whether it's(...) 100% capacity. Yeah, or 85. So why not run it in 85? How do you? How(...) do you figure a landlord will make so let's say landlords got a building and there And we shouldn't get down to the technicalities of that(...) but all That's an interesting point of view(...) Well, okay, just quickly if the landlord is getting ten thousand bucks a month and he's got ten apartments Yeah, how's he gonna make the same if he's got three apartments empty?

(...)

When you wouldn't you only be getting seven? No because you have your Your taxes wonder a little reduced your water is what's reduced. Oh You know what I mean? I drew a fish all in is reduced. Okay, so you do(...) So you you your utilities is a little bit reduced

(...)

Let's just assume nobody damages the unit even though let's just assume nobody damages the unit. Okay, even though I know what happens I know it happens. Yeah, I've seen it Okay,(...) let's move on let's power through this

(...)

Building controls people

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Businesses(...) people Who need to build stuff? the The time for them to get their permits is sometimes reasonable. Sometimes it's right out of whack I know there's some there's a there's about five pre

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Buildings building styles that are already approved if you if you use what their cookie cutter

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Plans are so but for any businesses like the only way to increase(...) The economic development within Sudbury is to attract more businesses

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How can that be done in a reasonable fashion?

Taken out in the form of rent now the property taxes. Yes, they go up I don't know what I haven't looked up to see what the rate was in 2025 24 23 and so on but I know This year for 2026 they were set at 3.9% That's the city portion of it. There is the education portion of it as well I'm not talking about that, but just the city portion was 3.9

(...)

in order to get it to 3.9

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Money was taken from the reserves(...) and the reserves are like a little piggy bank. That's just(...) Off to the side. I don't know how many piggy banks are there But however many piggy banks taking that in and putting it into the big pot

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Those reserves are still empty

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and

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Now

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The budget is

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Sitting it's been tabled so it's in pencil basically it's ready to go I think they're gonna be attacking it in December(...) or Give or take

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But we're starting at a five point seven five point eight percent tax increase for this coming year Not to mention any business cases(...) So first of all, what's a business case?

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Well the business cases what's a business I don't know what a business I don't know the real I can imagine But what is a business case? Is like whatever topic you're talking about. Okay, okay and in the guts of it

(...)

What they're saying what it's gonna cost is it a losing or gaining?

(...)

momentum(...) Can you give me an example of that of a business case it does the arena qualify as a business case? The urine is yeah qualified as business aside from the arena because we've all heard about the arena Yeah, is there any other business cases that come to mind that you can be in the library the library Is(...) anyone gonna go to the library? No(...) number one

(...)

Hardly anybody reads books anymore. What do they do?

(...)

Yeah online is and online was something when Jeff started his bookstore back in the day(...) everyone said(...) Nothing nobody's gonna go and do that. Meanwhile now Jeff is delivering your packages, right? indirectly Number(...) two, what's wrong with the libraries? What's wrong with Mackenzie Street? What's wrong with LaSalle? What's wrong with the Southridge?(...) They're all good buildings, but they want us have them into(...) so if they finish

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The only one they're gonna close the Mackenzie

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So that's so just they're basically moving Mackenzie to downtown where people gonna park park

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You ever think of somebody who's a senior Disabled they don't want to go downtown as it is. No. No, how are they gonna get up there up? Where the stairs to the library? Is there an elevator once you can get in the building, but still it's still too much of a hassle. Yeah, there's stairs. There's stairs What are they gonna do walk from the bus station? I don't think so seniors

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and I shouldn't say seniors don't go downtown, right, but

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I'm starting to get the sense that people at this current rate don't feel safe to go downtown and a senior who might be vulnerable Because they can't move fast if they see someone coming and they feel

(...)

Uneasy, they're just a sitting duck. So for example, we have a dentistry downtown

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Security guard says at the door. Oh, this is on the corner. I'm not saying you said no names No, you're correct. But I so I know of one dentistry downtown. Thank you

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The security guard there opens the door for you when you get there from the inside or the outside No from the outside. Okay, and then he walks you to the car after your appointment. What if there's two people that come once?

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There's one security guard anyways never mind the details but anyways What's that scene when you walk into dollar Rama and there's security there? What is that scene? You can't even go grocery shopping now without security Listen Bob a dollar Rama or for any of these security places

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They're Rent-a-cops my opinion and even though I'm supposed to be up unbiased. Yeah, they're not gonna do anything I see places like the LCBO getting robbed and it is Not the security guard that is taking action. It's other patrons taking action and telling that person

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You can't take what you've done. Yeah, so I was

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I Have a buddy of mine who walked into the liquor store up at

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By Home Depot, okay, and Standing at the cash ready to pay

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And he goes home. Did you see that that guy just walked in with a model? Oh, yeah, that's an easy That's an easy 40 bucks. Yeah, so he said well, then why am I standing here paying for mine? Yeah, and it's true

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Yeah, like we have that take back our control Respect. Yeah care Yeah, love. Yeah, all those words are thrown out of the dictionary now and we got to bring them back Well, it seems to be convenience When it's convenient

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but(...) There's so many people who actually care(...) But they're scared to show it You know my son we go to a store and he'll open the door for somebody and they look at him weird No, that's that's normal. It's Not the weird part but all holding the door for somebody is fine. Yeah, that's just plainness. Yeah, and where you come from(...) But yeah, no, we all have to stand together We got to fight our government and we got to move forward we can take back

(...)

I'm not gonna be able to fix Canada. I'm not gonna be able to fix our province But I sure in the heck Know that I can fix our city and that's the difference(...) Because we have to start some so circling back to the taxes

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The taxes are going to be going because this was an election year the taxes were kept low(...) Okay Nice and neat and simple. Yeah, but next year or in the next few years could be a time for a reckoning

(...)

Can(...) Can the constituents of Sudbury?

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Handle a Massive tax increase that might be a lot higher than it is now Now all what they're doing right now is taxing the people to death which is not just the property owners this is affecting their children Where there's no money. Sorry junior. You're not going to camp this week. Okay. Yeah. Oh(...) Sorry Elizabeth we have no you can't go into that bowling tournament Or we're hurting everybody. It's not just the taxpayers. Wait, when we get the tax hikes it triples down You got your parents you got your daughter you got your son You got all your events in your outings and everything gone and that's what's happening for example(...) when they raised the

(...)

Children's camp by 300 grand(...) This year what children's camp like camp Sadaka any any okay any city run camp Yeah, yeah 300 run. Okay, the the operating cost went up to by 300,000. Yes, okay And that's what that's what the people had to pay. You know how many people never went to camp You know how sad that is kids look forward to it. Hey kids look forward to it. Exactly But not only that when you start picking on kids(...) That is so disgusting

(...)

It's up to the people to stand up for themselves and fight for our city back(...) and if they really want(...) We'll bring it back if they don't I feel sorry for you because you were talking five point seven percent next year Take it. Well, that's that's where it starts plus whatever else is got to be added on. That's right So you were looking probably at about seven point five once you start adding the interest of stuff on the arena What will have to happen?

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So you're forecasting or you're saying we're looking at a seven and a half(...) Do you think it'll stop there? No?

(...)

Do you think the year off it from your point of view the year after will it be another seven another eight or

(...)

Okay, fair enough, okay(...) the seat council or council and the mayor

(...)

It'll be pay. Yeah, this election is a key election in summary history. Okay. Yeah mark my words We have enough counseling candidates out there who are good people who can make the change(...) Who if the people want to look into them and if the people want to support them, so for example(...) Right now the structure in the city is wrong. We have our management Yeah, then we have our mayor and then we have our counselors that is totally wrong

(...)

staff Management is staff. Did we draw draw that out again? Who's at the top? Management management where the upper management at on baby square, so they're at the top. They're at the top They call the shots. Yeah, we have our mayor. Yeah, and then we have our counselors(...) the proper(...) Reality the way it's supposed to be yeah is we have our mayor who's voted in Yeah, we have our counselors who are voted in yeah, I the public the people correct Then we have our management who we hire

(...)

To work for us and the people so how how did(...) the how did the turkey? get on top

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the Order of the sandwiches It's it's year after year a little bigger and deeper(...)

and so okay,(...) I Don't care. My name is Bob. Justin. I will go in there. I value my name There will be an external audit the people will have answers. We will move forward and Basically, that's it and I guarantee you I will never accept

because I don't want it. That's not me

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And I will dedicate myself for four hard years(...) of all my hard work and I will be seen and Basically, that's what it comes under or people can continue(...) in The finest the island world, but it's gonna catch up to us and it's catching up to us now was good It'll catch up to our children and their children

(...)

Is what is what I'm hearing? Yes Guarantee I(...) don't make promises. I make guarantees because I'm not a politician

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so in the end, is there anything else that you

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That that we need to cover before wrapping this up and this is the first(...) You know, we're open to having you back at a later time just as well as every other candidate who has come through here and we invite all the candidates whether you're running for mayor or a councillor(...) in Greater Sudbury and also across the north

(...)

Yes, anything else that you want to that we need to(...) you know dig up Yeah, I plan to go out and speak to our Rainbow School Board our Catholic School Board in regards to

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What's being taught in our classes right now? Yeah, there's some two three spares and then lunch

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two or three spares

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Elementary or high school high school. There are two or three spares and then lunch. Yeah

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What do you mean two or three spares? Spares where it's a time so, you know, the municipal is not anything doesn't have anything to do with education. No, but let's

(...)

Okay because Where's the financial end of teaching? Where's the life skills of teaching?(...) with the addictions and Burst control of teaching. There is no reality in the school system anymore. We don't even have treats

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And that's a problem Exactly and that's where it starts. We can blame our adults. We can blame our homeless. We can blame our addicts But where does this start?(...) Education and I like I said this as soon as I started

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Communication education makes everything go. So could you imagine? Junior going to school today coming home and

(...)

Yeah, I'm tired. I I only had one spare today at lunch, but(...) Boy, I know where we got to go and I bad, you know when we go grocery shopping I can understand why you get upset or whatever Whatever right why food goes in the garbage. I can understand that why you're not letting me camping this weekend, etc. Etc But when they have no clue

(...)

It's sad But they have the time to go stick a needle in their arm with fentanyl behind a garbage bin. Okay

(...)

Because that's how they know that's how they fit in in today's society. Well, that's a parenting thing, isn't it? No

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Because if they walk it school if they never had so much time in the school Yeah, and they were being taught something. Yeah, that would not happen

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So some schools I know they start at and this is going outside of Ontario, but they start at Eight o'clock and they're not done until after four

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That's a that's a full school day(...) and It's a good job(...) It's a full school day here. I know that school in high school starts at(...) Quarter after eight and they're done by quarter after two or there about so that's six hours. Whereas

(...)

This other district(...) It's in it's in Florida

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They have six no eight hours of education training Plus any after school stuff. I think a longer school day would be good, but let's not go down that

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But

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Well,(...) you got to train them but you got to get them interested in high school But we don't offer them anymore. Yeah. Well, okay

(...)

What's the woodwork? Where's the electrical?(...) I? remember in grade nine we had electrical(...) and The other one was automotive. Yeah, I was in grade nine.(...) I didn't take(...) Maybe I did take woodwork. I remember taking drafting(...) and welding(...) and Today's day I still use the automotive. I still use the welding. I don't do I don't do anything in woodworking

(...)

Electrical. Yeah, I still do electrical stuff and that stuff that I learned in high school that that gave me enough

(...)

That gave me enough to be dangerous now You know if you get into the trades you can get into whatever trades you want But they but absolutely kids should be exposed to that because kids these days

(...)

There's too much of this

(...)

and that happens in Not only my household, but it happens in other households as well so you but life skills another thing that they should get into is there should be a class on financial education financial literacy because not everyone is cut out to be Having a job there should be more in the entrepreneurial space(...) into business Because that's just you got to have options See another thing where I want to go is the playgrounds. Okay the playgrounds in Sudbury. Yes, okay so we have so many students in Financial in policing in

(...)

Addictions mental health we have so many students, okay What would be wrong with having a playground as of from four to six every day as you centers? And where the students go to talk to these two other students because they can understand each other(...) And share what's bothering them and so on right would that not make sense? The buildings there the facilities there. Why would we want to stop start closing them? When we can use them to our advantage or our kids would have something to do. Oh, where's Johnny today? Oh, he's staying. He's going to Robinson playground do To do a youth program from four to six So after school playground some kind of program for the kids correct And that would give their parents time to get home from work or wherever they're doing Yeah Anything and you know what that child is gonna get whatever if they're actually had a rough day at school And they're stressed and stuff by the time they talk and leave that playground. You know what they're going home happy(...) Yeah, because they have no more grudges against anybody because right now a lot of them probably going home and going directly to the screen Unless they're involved in something or the streets the streets I hate to say it, but we have a good percentage of those in the streets Okay, and they hang around till six seven o'clock at night, and then they go home

(...)

Now that's where part of the parents(...) issue fits in okay, so this seems to be a social a social

(...)

Component to everything right you know you're running for mayor

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What are what's what are the top three things on your priority list?

(...)

Well First of all it's putting the people first okay, and when I say putting the people first I mean on all the ten crisis okay, and then what we got to do is we got to fix our roads and beautify them We have to bring our people and families together But in order to do that you got to control your property taxes. Yeah because if

(...)

Ralph's got an extra hundred bucks, and he can take his kids out to the playground. Who's he gonna meet? Oh my god. There's Roger. Hey boy have your kids ever growing up. He starts the communication right and then what happens? Then they're all going for an ice cream at the Dairy Queen. Yeah, right. Yeah, who knows your neighbors nowadays?

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It's not like it used to be no no and I'm not expecting it to be the same way either But we can meet halfway where everybody's happy in a common playground or a common type area exactly Your kids go in the wintertime your kids go skating you're standing beside each kid. You know hey How are you I remember you blah blah blah? Communication is so lacking in the city

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It is sad and we got to bring that back and no offense, but the new arena ain't gonna do it

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because the new arena the master plan shows all The way up to Hudson Bay where they're gonna come to a wolves game. Are you serious? How are they gonna get here the train or canoe? The canoe in the winter doesn't work.(...) I don't know

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It's flipping the script

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And I'm working on the plans right now Where(...) instead of the new arena we have a new fire hall

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Double bay double crew so there's got there there's talk or about the Garson fire hall being redone or rebuilt Okay, and I think the one in Minnow Lake There is another candidate that came in and I mentioned those two there was a price tag attached to it And then there is money earmarked for the fire hall downtown renovation versus a new one

(...)

The plans we have in the works right now, yeah Which I will I will come back on your show before the next before the election Okay, maybe a day or two and tell you what my plans are. Yeah, and I'll bring my plans with me. Okay For example where the new arena is supposed to go. Yeah, I want the front half to be a conference Entertainment Center for the of the new arena, correct? Yeah, the other half. I want to market like Ottawa(...) Okay, the byword market.(...) Okay, and we're gonna be growing our vegetables up top and stuff I taught top what of the arena of the roof of the roof,(...) okay(...) Then you're gonna go down. We're gonna have restaurants at the bottom and so on You're gonna come down on the Elgin Street. I want to keep that all historic. It's beautiful the train station part of it No, no all the way down Elgin to Durham Street. Okay(...) All the way down to the School of Architecture

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Okay, that's where the new Place de x'ar exists. You're still too far Durham Street is where the YMCA is. Oh Yeah, okay that's a small strip. Okay, but I want all the historic

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Businesses to be there then when you turn on to Durham Street, right? I want all lock store. No, no vehicles Okay,(...) and I want novelty shops gift shops little bellies little cafes(...) Little bit of music in the background and so on you come back out onto Elgin Street from Durham and I want from there all the way to

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By the rear end of the shoppers drug mart. Mm-hmm. I want all that 70s and 80s with movie theaters(...) Any legendary people from Sudbury? I wanted the sidewalk I want to have antique car shows once a week to bring everybody together downtown and Yeah,(...) but is that realistic sure is

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It sounds great nostalgic and all that stuff, but if you have little shops where there's trinkets and knickknacks Mm-hmm Who's gonna buy that who's gonna keep that local business open the people because they won't be scared to be one downtown Yeah, so that's gonna be cleaned up first. Well, of course. Yes what once that's cleaned up. Okay, great, but

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You know

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And you're talking about a market type area, correct? Like the market like I think it's called the byword market in Ottawa where you can go in I don't know if vehicles are allowed in there or not. I don't remember You but it's for walking only it's a great little place(...) In(...) the(...) parking lot yeah all the way down Yeah, what about I would like to give them a free bus pass at the age of 65

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We would give them a $500 rebate on their taxes(...) Until they hit 70 once you hit 70 your taxes freeze So if you're paying $2,000 now(...) Because you're 70 you could be 90(...) and your property tax will still be 2,000 One of the reasons why is we can keep them in their homes. Yeah, okay

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they have a future of financing and budgeting all the way through(...) and(...) Yeah, I think it's what the people need is that realistic though. Yes, it is Cuz the city so the city needs yeah, but if the city keeps on(...) Squeezing everyone else who's already squeezed when it comes to property taxes(...) how can you

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Alleviate the seniors from paying the money's got to come from somewhere. I understand the money's gonna come from somewhere infrastructure right now Let's say the arena wasn't being built. Yeah, what would the picture look like? Like let's just say I know there is

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What If the arena was put on let's just say pause. I don't know how much life is left out of the current arena

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However

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What if that was put on hold and that was not a factor. What would the state of? Sudbury(...) Look like

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It would be probably about(...) 15 20 percent better right now, but that arena hasn't heard us yet that that arena will hurt us as of 2027(...) and then 2027 add another 30 years to it. That's when we're gonna be hurt badly(...) and I'm gonna tell you For the seniors and safe stating that you know, you can freeze your taxes at 70. There's lots of money out there It's being spent in the wrong places. Lots of money out where in the city the taxpayers Pay bringing a lot of money. Do you realize that 53% of the taxpayers money is spent in Tom Davies Square? on what staff management

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so salaries basically, yes

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so

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There's lots of money. It's got to be spent in the right way and You know what? I hate to say it, but we should never ever have got rid of the auditor general's office That was the biggest mistake because it shows right there That's there's so much to hide and it's not fair to the taxpayers of the greater city of Sudbury but is this Do the taxpayers of the greater city of Sudbury have a voice? No, they don't but I want to give them one

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And I will give them one

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Because like I said, I plan to be on the streets just as much as the office when it comes to the auditor general(...) How did that from your point of view how did that department get

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Squashed quashed squashed disbanded whatever you want to say. How did they get removed?(...) I Know there was a vote. I understand there was a vote. It was unanimous and then that department which was about a half a million dollars a year was removed

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How does that even happen?

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Well Put it this way.(...) I I'm assuming that it all started when they found the 22 million dollars under somebody's pillow

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And now we get rid of the auditor general and they're spending all this money on roads What aren't being done right and white lines that we're doing this and we're planting trees and we're doing that and oh look at Look at what we're doing. It's election year. What happened in the last three and a half years

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So without the so yesterday Wasn't 83 million or is it are you saying 800 and over 800 million was found?

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83 million. Okay 83 million is quite a bit. That's a ball most. Yeah, it's almost 10% of The 22 to it(...) add the decks are 22 so we're so let's just say(...) a Hundred million dollars was found correct in(...) So what's gonna happen with with that hundred million can the reserves be replenished or is that gonna go out and be spent somewhere? Anyways

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How do you know?

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Because I know what the city is. I know how the city operates like I will I don't make promises But I can guarantee you it will not go back into the reserves so and that's why they're scared that someone's gonna get in like me and Be able to let all this truth surface

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so the auditor general is(...) That's for the checks and balances to make sure that everything is done properly

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Now The auditor general even if they were on board even right now

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They'll be doing their job, but we still gotta go a step higher and still have that external audit Because we have to refresh everything

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Everything I will not I would never walk in there right now and say I am Bob Johnson. I'm your new mayor I'm representing the people and Okay, let's move forward(...) that audit external audit is so important

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For my value do the taxpayers, okay, so the taxpayers deserve it And a lot of the taxpayers want it and I'm giving them the voice and I hear you and I will make sure it happens

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All I can say(...) to end my interview today is

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To the greater the great people of Sudbury were in serious trouble I want to represent use I want to give you a voice. I want to work hard for you guys for four years(...) and I can guarantee you you won't be disappointed. You'll be surprised and like I said, I'm not a politician I don't make promises. I make guarantees and Yeah, that's the way it's gonna go and I will hit every ward because every ward to me all 12 wards are just as important

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So Bob what's the incentive for anyone for sure everyone?(...) I don't know what the numbers are for people that actually get out and vote who was it 40% 50% 60% How many people but you know?

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What I'm hearing is that it's so important for people to get out and vote Everybody to get out and vote and have their say they've got one say towards their counselor who their counselor is going to be And the mayor who the mayor is going to be

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Where I'm going with that is and you know try to try and wrap up

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The status quo to those to everyone out there that is

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Content with the status quo that way that things have been going

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What would you say?(...) to those individuals as taxpayers as voters What happens if they go with the with the status quo versus taking another look at things

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Well, first of all, I'd state that

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The taxpayers have been abused and used for many many years

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They're not happy(...) and I definitely will put a smile on their face again knowing

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That the city's safe the people are safe the people have stuff to do the kids are looked after

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My god, like I said this when you start picking on kids

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You know better than I won't even say it. Mm-hmm, but you know, it's very sad We have so many great people in this city whether(...) You're a Multi-millionaire whether you're just their average guy whether you're homeless at the end of the day. We're all equal We all have to work together because we all have value but it's to find that value(...) and Basically on that note everybody get out and vote. Let's have an 80% turnout October the 26th. It's up to use

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What you guys want for me you'll get(...) No promises guarantees. Thank you everybody. Have a great day Ontario my friend. I love it. This is a great show. I wish you guys the best and Okay,

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